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Friday, August 29th, 2008
McCain's pick
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. I can't say much on this since I know nothing of her. But on the face of things - she is young, she is white and she is a female. Even as a Republican I cannot see this happening.
I know some will be excited but I am not sure the country as a whole will be.
McCain's pick
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. I can't say much on this since I know nothing of her. But on the face of things - she is young, she is white and she is a female. Even as a Republican I cannot see this happening.
I know some will be excited but I am not sure the country as a whole will be.
"stuck with Obama" - For me that seems dream-like. My only concern is that he will have to step down after 8 years. Look at me already getting teary-eyed about it.
Good for the Republicans. I doubt this will help their plight and I see Obama all smiles November 4th. YAY!!!
I don't think he gave her the nom because she is qualified, I think he gave it to her because she's a female (and just because she's a female, not because she a strong female with a respectable political history) - and he's trying to swing over the Hillary voters that wanted to see a female in the White House. And I think he wanted to be "diverse" like the Obama campaign --- it's obviously a strategic moved based on wanting votes and not wanting what is best for the country.
Oh, female and not old as balls. So maybe he can get some young voters too...ya, right.
But that's just my surface, unresearched summation.
As a (former) Hillary supporter, I've got the say that what I've caught of the convention so far and of Obama's speech last night -- I'm a little excited. What a change...haha.
As for the republicans, those staunch (white male) republicans have no where to turn now ... minorities everywhere!!! (haha) I wonder if this choice, while strategic and I'm sure very well thought out, might lose some votes from old school republicans? Then again, they always just vote with the party, right? Then again, again, their party has always been old white dudes.
Either way, yay for change!
And this only proves we have been far less concerned with our race/gender as we've been saying for the past 25 years. Maybe now you'll believe us!
Call me crazy but.... I believe in planning ahead for a future that I may or may not know about. I am one of those people that wants to be as self sufficient as possible. I believe we are in the greatest country in the world, and I wish for nothing less than a great future America. That being said, I think that increased pressure on the working middle class to pay for the HUGE welfare state that is terribly mismanaged and abused will only get worse with a Democratically led government. It pays better to do nothing and collect from one of the social services(which I believe were developed for a good reason) than to actually work hard and plan for your own future. Our society has been on a downward spiral of increasing dependency on the "Nanny" government to take of us. I personally believe I have a little more vested interest in taking care of my family than allowing the government to do it. Here in lies the problem.... There is an entire class/party of people that believe exactly the opposite. Big gov doesn't think I am capable of caring for myself and my family.
1. Plant a garden.
2. Get some chickens
3. Make sure you have plenty of ammunition.
3 easy steps to be ready for the end of the government. I'm not a crazy gun wielding lunatic(Well to some I am) but, I am going to be ready if the worst case scenario becomes a reality.
My friends on Inforoo (Bonnaroo board) give me grief for being Republican and insist that I am a closet liberal - but I truly am not. I am exactly what you said "Fiscally Conservative and Socially Liberal". I cannot add anthing to your post and can only say I agree with it all!
When you figure out where that is, let me know.
Will, I don't have a problem going in on services with the rest of the country. I can't afford to build my own hospital and I don't have time to work and properly school my kids so I am happy to pay someone else to do that for me. It seems wasteful to have duplicate cycles in those cases when we can all go in together for a lot less.
Please don't shoot me dude.
...sexist pigs.
Actually, Dave, we are keeping our money in a couple of mason jars already. It's just that we only have pennies, nickels and dimes.
Denny.... I like private hospitals and private insurance. Big gov needs to stay out of that too. The problem with insurance premiums being so high is from the ridiculous malpractice lawsuits and abuse of the current systems. A little Tort reform would help this problem.... but there are too many Ludicrous Lobbying Lawyers standing in the way of this.
Say "Ludicrous Lobbying Lawyers" 3 times fast.
Besides, DC doesn't have Reps ... so aside from Pres, I don't have much to vote for.
I am going to have to take up a collection to pay for my bullets.
Thanks
Will the New Democrat.
It's funny, the Repubs who complain about Obama not having enough experience now how to answer for their own (which given McCain's age is not a small concern) and the Dems who attack McCain for being part of the Washington establishment have to account for Biden. Does this somehow cancel things out so that now we can have a informative and respectful campaign season where we the voters can determine the relative merit of each candidate in a thoughtful and deliberate manner?
I need to go prepare for 3 months of "Obama is a Muslim" innuendo and "McCain wants to annex Iraq" attacks. Should be as much fun as getting a colostomy.
I think Palin is a totally clueless move by McCain. My guess is that the intention was to have a woman for the disgruntled Hillary voters to run to, but the absolute only thing they have in common is their genitals.
Palin is really socially conservative, so that will not ween any independant minded disgruntled women.
I can not wait for the debates. Biden is going to eat her alive.
Personally both thoughts make me nervous
But Palin doesn't need to play the victim, and she won't. She's tough. She has confronted corruption in her own party with force.
Matt, it's pretty obvious you didn't watch her speech.
Sally- you weren't supposed to be amused. If you were open minded, you could have been persuaded for more consideration for her. But you seem so committed to Obama thus far, I'm not sure you and I debating this (or Dave and I) has much persuasive value either way. My comment was for the open minded, of which I assume there are still some out there.
Not that I'm defending beancounter, but he's not the one who brought it up.
It's obvious many of us feel strongly one way or the other and this lack of experience that everyone was throwing all over the place for Obama is so funny to me. Even bashing Biden, with 30+ years in Congress, yelling, "but what has HE done?" You mean to tell me he, alone, runs congress and passes all the bills? Toe to toe, veep to veep, Biden has alot more RELATED experience than she does.
And Meg, I'm always sorry that you feel this way: "Democrats just wanna take my money and throw it down the drain with more government programs." To me, the Republicans wanna take your money and give it to other countries, all along letting the rich people keep their money. At least the money that is taken would be recirculated in an attempt to make our country better... and stay in our country.
I don't know who to vote for now. Niki kept telling me Barack picked Nancy Grace as his VP. I was all set. Now I hear it's Biden, and I just don't know what to do.
I have issues - as I have already said - with the numerous government programs here in the USA that do NOT work but instead just enable people to live off of the government rather then work for what they have. You know I struggle financially just like alot of people - but I am always striving to better myself and make a life for my family. We go without alot of things that are just "wants" because of the "needs".
I think there's so much more to it that letting people live off the government. It's a vicious circle we can't seem to fix. Fixing THAT and making programs work is what we need to do. Stopping the cycle before it starts... kwim?
I am not defending Gov. Palin in any way - I am not sure what her home situation is with the kids so I cannot say anything against her or in her defense.
Was just curious as to your position on working moms.
Maybe this is why politicians look so much older after 4 years in the white house.
I read your post with great interest and whole heartedly agree, but then started to have some other thoughts based on Meg's questions to you. It's funny how we (me included) want mom to be available and think it's not right she would choose to do something that would take her away from so much, but what about dad? Why wouldn't it be just AS important for dad to be there, too?